Feature: Masters of their universes
Posted on Thursday, February 28, 2002 at 12:00 am
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This is how Sherman McCoy describes himself in Tom Wolfe's 1980s novel Bonfire of the Vanities. Sherman McCoy: the white Anglo-Saxon Protestant with the aristocratic chin; the owner of a $48,000 Mercedes roadster and a Park Avenue co-op; the St. Paul's and Yale man with both the high-society wife and the frisky, Southern mistress; and the cheap, rotten liar of a bond trader with a salary that could run a small country. And he, like the characters on the Fox network's short-lived sitcom The Street or Charlie Sheen in the movie Wall Street or Giovanni Ribisi in Boiler Room, makes tons of money in minimal time by making a few calls and by being an egotistical, heartless hardass. This is the image that approximately 46 percent of Wharton undergrads, 20.9 percent of Engineering undergrads and 18 percent of College undergrads will inherit next year when they enter the financial services industry. This industry -- the most highly sought-after by the class of 2002 -- expects them to work weekends and come into the office on call, to be able to sleep on a significant loss from a trade and be able to bounce back the next morning, to do what the guy who sits next to them does, except faster and better. And, ultimately, Wall Street will judge their performance not by how hard they work or how much they care, but solely by how much money they can make for the firm.

But these, the driven young of America's future financial elite, are not quite the soulless Sherman McCoys that people imagine them to be.

*

8:00 p.m., Saturday night, at his off-campus house on Spruce Street, Matt, a Wharton senior, is lying on his couch, legs stretched out on his coffee table, arms behind his head, watching a Bugs Bunny cartoon.

He just got back from dinner at New Deck with friends and is relaxing during that awkward time when it's too early to go out, but too late to get any serious work done. He starts flipping through the channels on his digital cable and talking about how he used to caddy, remembering the "good times," when the older caddies would be up at 8 a.m. sluggin' beers, and the young ones would be doing dip.

Matt is 6-foot-1 and 178 pounds, with dark hair and brown eyes. He's attractive in a wholesome, boyish sort of way. The second of four brothers from Chestnut Hill, he opens the door for girls and looks you in the eye when he shakes your hand. His mother is a professor of nursing at Villanova, and his father holds one of the top positions at the Philadelphia Chamber of Commerce. When Matt was young he didn't know what it meant to be a businessman, but he knew his father loved his job. Matt goes out four to five nights a week, during each of which he'll have 10-15 drinks. He sleeps until 12:30.

WHY MUST YOU DESCRIBE EVERY WOMEN AS A "BITCH"?

1) no body is required to compromise anything

2) YOU don't define what is "feminine" so get off our backs.

3) *your* "Boy's Club" needs some invading of its own -- so lest you throw stones.

Cutthroat Bitch

everywhere@everywhere.com

Liz --

I appreciated your, "Masters of their Universes" until you said Sandra, "may have to compromise her femininity to become the aggressive, cutthroat bitch who has invaded the boy's club."

Roles for women in this world are complicated enough -- as you outlined in the first portions of Sandra's story. Why is it necessary to call one of your sisters a "cutthroat bitch" for doing what she wants to do? You didn't find it necessary to describe how Matt or Billy might be horrible husbands and/or fathers for working 90 hours a week, but Sandra is somehow a horrible "bitch" of a woman for pursuing her dreams.

As an upwardly mobile woman you must know how difficult it is for women in non-traditional roles. By accepting a job at Dutsche Bank, you are by definition one of those women. Do you feel you have compromised *your* femininity? Are you aggressive? Lots of people would say you have and that you are. Do you want to be called a "cutthroat bitch" for your choices?

Do your sisters a favor, don't make it harder by pulling us down on your way up.

Thanks

Penn Student

Woman

Penn Woman

goto@yahoo.com

liz,

i was inspired by your article. in fact some might call it "genius."

on another note, that matt sounds like a catch. do girls on this campus some justice and release his real name.

thanks!

interested, student

jfeins@wharton.upenn.edu

Liz-

Great article...I was just wondering if you could forward me Sandra's number. She sounds like a babe and I'd like to take the cutthroat bitch out the next time I am around.

Josh, Investment Banker

NYC

He sounds like a catch? Why, because he'll be making a lot of money? Just like a money grubbing bitch to say that.

not interested

You can make a LOT more money doing other things than i-banking or consulting. A LOT more. Why work extremely long hours and work so much when you can relax and not work as hard but make a LOT more money? I also want to make a lot of money but decided to do so while investing less energy and more time. It will take me longer to make a lot of money, but eventually I will make MUCH more money than i-bankers. Who can guess what career I am interested in???

smartANDcreative

This article was very well written. However, it is also one sided and it does not help that the writer is working to DB after she graduates. I myself did an i-banking internship last summer and hated it--you should have talked to all the Wharton people who go into banking, hate it, burn out and drop out. While there may not be huge amounts of students who do that, there are many and their stories are well worth hearing. The comments about the wharton woman and her having to be a bitch to succeed were absolutely inappropriate.

me

I am going to be a pro Athlete, make much more money a year than any whartonite, and get more women. Boooo yaaaaa

Athlete

i recently graduated with a finance/mgmt. concentration and am working as an ibk analyst. A woman does not need to become a competitive bitch to succeed on wall street. But, I''ve found that "checking your femininity at the door" is more of a requirement than i expected. I can and I do retain my personality. But building relationships with senior managers is vital to my career and honestly I find it difficult to relate to them. It may sound cliched but it is certainly true that my male peers shoot the shit about sports and chicks with the management. I hate talking to mgmt about what they think are "female friendly topics" but I cant exactly be myself when they censor their jokes around me. I clearly don't want to cultivate a more work-friendly personality, yet the author of this article is correct. It's certainly a man's world and women can easily fit in if they have typically male likes and dislikes. Otherwise, good luck becoming buddies with your middle-aged manager.

Female wharton grad

Could this be more generic?

What, exactly, are you saying here? That there are students who work hard and drink? That sounds real different from the stereotypes...

Why not ditch the same old, same old "Whartonites suck" mentality that everyone on campus has been (and, don't kid yourself, will be) talking about forever, and talk about why these people are interesting, or why you even chose them for the article.

Doing lots of charitable activities has gotten over-achievers jobs and college acceptances for years. Hanging out at Smoke's is hardly grounds for an article.

How can you make a case for bankers being interesting people, having written this article? How you express yourself disproves your point more powerfully than anything you've tried to say.

bored

What a terrible turnoff this article was for this prospective student to Penn. Thank God I was accepted to to other schools.

Penn (former) Prospective Student

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